| 1 | 21:58 < grimeton> lifechamp: that's one of those mysterious errors ... i guess it's gone after you shut all the vms down and rebooted the host
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| 2 | 21:58 < lifechamp> hmm.. i'll give it a try
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| 3 | 22:00 < grimeton> sometimes i get segfaults in my guests - ending the vm, starting it again and i still get the same segfaults
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| 4 | 22:00 < grimeton> ending it, starting another vm and then the "broken" one and all starts to work again
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| 5 | 22:00 < grimeton> no matter why
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| 6 | 22:01 < lifechamp> oops, i only saved the states of the vms, and didn't power them down.. might not fix then huh?
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| 7 | 22:02 < lifechamp> (before my windows host reboot just now)
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| 8 | 22:02 < lifechamp> well, we'll see
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| 9 | 22:02 < grimeton> lifechamp: if it is what i think it is, it's a messed up memory problem on the host, so rebooting the host should fix it
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| 10 | 22:02 < lifechamp> grimeton: doesn't the fact that only past a certain snapshot of the bad vm does any of this happen?
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| 11 | 22:03 < grimeton> lifechamp: that would mean that the php install changed something on the system's settings ...
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| 12 | 22:03 < grimeton> that's weird
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| 13 | 22:03 < grimeton> i don't say it's not possible, but in my experience ...
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| 14 | 22:03 < lifechamp> OTOH, its weird that, iirc, it was black screen when powered in one order, and network adaptor if the other.. but i'd have to repeat that a few times to say that with more certainty
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| 15 | 22:04 < lifechamp> grimeton: they had sudo rights to a few things.. like, hmm.. sudoedit httpd.conf, restart, mysql restart, and rights to run a certain FMS install script as root
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| 16 | 22:04 < grimeton> fms?
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| 17 | 22:04 < lifechamp> FlashMediaServer
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| 18 | 22:05 < lifechamp> and.. sudo cron -u <user> -e
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| 19 | 22:05 < grimeton> yeah but all that shouldn't change the kernel's behaviour
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| 20 | 22:05 < lifechamp> nope
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| 21 | 22:05 < grimeton> and especially not vboxs' behaviour as it is on the host system and hasn't been touched at all
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| 22 | 22:05 < grimeton> and only saving the state is something the kernel is not even part of
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| 23 | 22:05 < grimeton> the execution is stopped, the memory is dumped to disk, that's it
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| 24 | 22:06 < lifechamp> aha! bad one *start*ed just frine
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| 25 | 22:06 < grimeton> you run the guest utilities inside those vms?
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| 26 | 22:06 < lifechamp> i don't think i've run those utilities here, no. i actually don't see the option to do so.. haven't used vbox much yet
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| 27 | 22:07 < lifechamp> oh, devices->install guest additions?
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| 28 | 22:07 < grimeton> they usually come as part of the guest's packaging system
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| 29 | 22:07 < grimeton> yeah or by the guestaddition.iso
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| 30 | 22:07 < grimeton> check if there are packages in the package manager of the guest
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| 31 | 22:07 < grimeton> it's the "cleaner" way imho
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| 32 | 22:07 < lifechamp> ...and.. their script isn't broken anymore either
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| 33 | 22:08 < grimeton> script? not broken anymore?
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| 34 | 22:08 < lifechamp> ya, there were bugs in their script before when the 'bad' vm was 'bad
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| 35 | 22:08 < grimeton> yeah memory issues
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| 36 | 22:08 < lifechamp> i mean, the site didn't behave properly (even after reboot). now it does
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| 37 | 22:09 < grimeton> hm yeah
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| 38 | 22:09 < grimeton> memory problems
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| 39 | 22:09 < grimeton> the problem i have is that i am not able to reproduce it
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| 40 | 22:09 < lifechamp> "package manager"? do i need to go dig around in the vbox dir on windows for that?
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| 41 | 22:09 < grimeton> i see it
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| 42 | 22:09 < grimeton> every now and then but i can't reproduce it to file a bug report
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| 43 | 22:09 < grimeton> lifechamp: the package manager is like rpm (yum), dpkg (apt-get) or the pkg* tools on bsd
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| 44 | 22:12 < grimeton> lifechamp: does the std work now?
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| 45 | 22:12 < lifechamp> std?
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| 46 | 22:12 < grimeton> save to disk
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| 47 | 22:13 < lifechamp> err.. you mean "store machine state" then "start" machine? yes, works fine, no prob
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| 48 | 22:13 < grimeton> great
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| 49 | 22:14 < grimeton> i guess i'll file a bug report then without the possibility to reproduce it
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| 50 | 22:16 < lifechamp> hrm.. having good virtualization software is more important than i thought
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| 51 | 22:16 < lifechamp> I thought it was just features and speed, and not so much serious bugs : )
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| 52 | 22:16 < grimeton> i'm certain it will be fixed pretty soon
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| 53 | 22:16 < grimeton> the problem is to reproduce it
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| 54 | 22:17 < lifechamp> ya
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